Comments on: Science as a Candle in the Dark http://www.nautis.com/2005/09/17/node-428/ Jung, Sheldrake, Campbell, Bergson & Me Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: surreal2u http://www.nautis.com/2005/09/17/node-428/#comment-297 surreal2u Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:08:15 +0000 #comment-297 Also pertinent to more recent conversations as well wouldn't you say? I've always been a fan of this particular entry as well. Also pertinent to more recent conversations as well wouldn’t you say? I’ve always been a fan of this particular entry as well.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nautis.com/2005/09/17/node-428/#comment-57 Anonymous Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:19:44 +0000 #comment-57 I yam Pete DaI yam Pete Da DEmon! ::ROAR!!!!!!!!!:: I EAT ALL YOUR BOOKs WITH TOMOTOE SUACE AND FRUIT LOOPS. I WILL MAKE U DUMB LIKE ME AND BRUTHER BUSH. ::SNARLL!:: I FOOL YOU WITH RELIGON AND FALSE STORIES OF PRETTY STORKS UNTIL U HIDE IN YOUR BED WHILE ME AND ME BRUTHER BUSH AND MANY OTHER BRUTHERS LIKE GATHER ON GIANT MOUNTAINS AT NITE NITE TO HAVE ROCK FIGHTS. ROCK FIGHTS R BIG FUN!!! THEN WHEN BIG FUN FOR NITE NITE IS OVER WE WILL SIT OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE ON YOUR FRONT YARD AND WATCH EACH OTHER SWEAT IN OUR HOT SUN. YES. OUR HOT SUN. HIDE IN YOUR BED NOW SILLY HUMAN! :::ROAR!!!::: (Sorry matt, I couldn't resist doing this) I yam Pete DaI yam Pete Da DEmon!

::ROAR!!!!!!!!!::

I EAT ALL YOUR BOOKs WITH TOMOTOE SUACE AND FRUIT LOOPS. I WILL MAKE U DUMB LIKE ME AND BRUTHER BUSH.

::SNARLL!::

I FOOL YOU WITH RELIGON AND FALSE STORIES OF PRETTY STORKS UNTIL U HIDE IN YOUR BED WHILE ME AND ME BRUTHER BUSH AND MANY OTHER BRUTHERS LIKE GATHER ON GIANT MOUNTAINS AT NITE NITE TO HAVE ROCK FIGHTS. ROCK FIGHTS R BIG FUN!!!

THEN WHEN BIG FUN FOR NITE NITE IS OVER WE WILL SIT OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE ON YOUR FRONT YARD AND WATCH EACH OTHER SWEAT IN OUR HOT SUN.

YES. OUR HOT SUN.

HIDE IN YOUR BED NOW SILLY HUMAN!

:::ROAR!!!:::

(Sorry matt, I couldn’t resist doing this)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nautis.com/2005/09/17/node-428/#comment-53 Anonymous Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:11:31 +0000 #comment-53 One interesting thing I read the other day (can't recall if it was in a National Geographic or in the NY Times) is that, since the 1920s, at least, beliefs in Creationism and Evolution have changed little, as a percentage of the US population. Here is the <a href="http://www.nwcreation.net/atheism.html">results from the Gallop poll</a> since 1981 (I apologize for the source; it is the first match I could find with Google). The data prior to that was gathered from a more generalized question of evolution vs. creationism, but still showed roughly 45% of America believes in literal Creationism, while 10-15% believe in pure Evolution. The numbers haven't changed so much over time. As far as I can tell, what has changed is the power base of America. As the middle and upper classes have grown over time, so has their power and influence. I would argue, with little supporting evidence, that in the past the power base had a higher concentration of scientifically minded people. As the country has become more egalitarian, the belief in Creationism within the power base has similarly grown. In either case, I find myself agreeing more and more with Ralph Nader with his comment that the political climate within the US must necessarily get worse before it can be improved. I think the current resurgence of religion within the US government will not last. My hope is that this will result in a renewed interest in science and technology. -- Be human One interesting thing I read the other day (can’t recall if it was in a National Geographic or in the NY Times) is that, since the 1920s, at least, beliefs in Creationism and Evolution have changed little, as a percentage of the US population. Here is the results from the Gallop poll since 1981 (I apologize for the source; it is the first match I could find with Google). The data prior to that was gathered from a more generalized question of evolution vs. creationism, but still showed roughly 45% of America believes in literal Creationism, while 10-15% believe in pure Evolution.

The numbers haven’t changed so much over time. As far as I can tell, what has changed is the power base of America. As the middle and upper classes have grown over time, so has their power and influence. I would argue, with little supporting evidence, that in the past the power base had a higher concentration of scientifically minded people. As the country has become more egalitarian, the belief in Creationism within the power base has similarly grown.

In either case, I find myself agreeing more and more with Ralph Nader with his comment that the political climate within the US must necessarily get worse before it can be improved. I think the current resurgence of religion within the US government will not last. My hope is that this will result in a renewed interest in science and technology.
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Be human

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