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Never Before Seen: Interview with Carl Jung

Three hours of exclusive never released video with Dr. Carl Jung allows for a greater insight to Jung’s philosophies, definitions, and thoughts from the man himself.

From Penn State Public Broadcasting: “Great Minds of The 20th Century: Dr. Carl Jung, an interactive DVD-ROM, incorporates three hours of original interview sessions with the famed psychoanalyst at home in Zurich in 1957. Conducted by Dr. Richard Evans, Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of Houston, the Jung dialog was previously available as part of Dr. Evans’s Notable Contributors to the Psychology of Personality series. Penn State Media Sales has combined the interviews with outtakes and other material never before released to the public.

Additional resources include video taped introductions produced by Dr. Evans, taped forty-five years after the original interview, and by Dr. Alan Elms of the University of California, Davis. Also included are web links and references for enhanced viewing on computers with Internet access. The DVD-ROM is designed to play on DVD Video players with limited interactivity and on computers for full interactivity.”

For more information: Penn State Public Broadcasting

Jung and Alcoholics Anonymous

Jung is credited with having set the course for what today is known as Alcoholics Anonymous. No, not the founder of A.A. – that was a joint effort from Bill Wilson, a stock broker (alcoholic) and “Dr. Bob” an Akron, Ohio, M.D. (also a confessed alcoholic).

It was Bill Wilson who told a story of one of Jung’s patients, “Roland,” who was helped by Jung. Roland then associated with the Oxford group of the day (in the 1920s I think). It was Wilson who likewise in his attempt to get sober visited the Oxford groups, meeting Roland, who informed Wilson of Jungian psychology and the need for change at depth. Wilson later had one of these “conversions” — not to be confused with emotional stage healings as seen on T.V. Wilson’s “spiritual experience” led him to form A.A. with Dr. Bob. in the 1930s. I have found much of “Jung” in A.A. philosophy — not the “pop-rehab-behavioral-Skinner-type” A.A. as preached by what seems to be nearly every “social agency” that deals with alcoholism and drug addiction, but rather A.A. at its deeper levels as suggested by Wilson and others in the early AA’s in their understanding of the “spiritual” necessity — a complete renewal of the mind in order for recovery to come about.

There is a one or two line mention of Jung in A.A.’s text book (the Big Book), “Alcoholics Anonymous?” (pp. 26, 27.). When Roland reportedly asked Jung if there was any sure way for an alcoholic to recover — truly recover, Jung is quoted as saying, “Yes, there is. Exceptions to cases such as yours have been occurring since early times. Here and there, once in a while, alcoholics have had what are called vital spiritual experiences. To me these are phenomena. They appear to be in the nature of huge emotional displacements and rearrangements. Ideas, emotions, and attitudes which were once the guiding forces of the lives of these men are suddenly cast to one side, and a completely new set of conceptions and motives begin to dominate them. In fact, I have been trying to produce some such emotional rearrangement within you. With many individuals the methods which I employed are successful, but I have never been successful with an alcoholic of your description.”

It seems that Jung’s pronouncement that the only hope for Roland was a “spiritual experience” was the final straw in Roland’s treatment. He was deflated to the point of “giving up.” As a result he had the “rearrangement” and later explained it to “Ebby” who in turn explained it to Bill Wilson who explained it to Dr. Bob, who formed what became A.A.

Jung played a vital role in the eventual formation of what people now recognize as A.A. At last count, I counted over 140 Twelve Step programs patterned after A.A.: e.g. Overeaters Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous, and many more. Jung’s ideas have obviously traveled far more than possibly even some mainstream analysts may know.

Credit for this information should probably go to those before me who led me in the right direction to discover it, particularly Ernest Kurtz with whom I spoke briefly a number of years ago about his book, Not-God: A History of Alcoholics Anonymous (1979: Hazelden Books, Center City, Mn. 55012). Kurtz’s notes on Jung’s role in A.A. are found on pages 8 and 9 and in a couple of wonderful footnotes on the subject on pages 252 & 253, notes 5 – 8. Kurtz quotes from a 1961 letter written by Bill Wilson to Jung and from Jung’s reply, which was published in an A.A. monthly magazine, “Grapevine” (Jan. 1963 and Nov. 1968(?)) All–or I would suspect most–of the official documentation on this may be found by contacting A.A.’s main office in New York and the Hazelden folks in Center City, Minnesota.

Jung, no doubt, did wonders in moving along the world of psychotherapy, but he did even more than that in my opinion. He helped make it possible through a set of circumstances (unconsciously on purpose, so to speak) to have an organization, and many more like it, that has helped millions upon millions to recovery. Many, even in A.A., especially the “newer” A.A. members, do not know Jung’s part in the whole picture.

Read Wilson’s letter to Jung, here and Jung’s reply, here

On Individuation

One of Jung’s favorite metaphors for the clash of opposites is appropriate here: the hero’s night sea journey. The good hero sets out into the dark night sky on a raft to defeat the bad sea monster. When, in the morning daylight, the hero emerges after having slain the dragon, he has eclipsed what he or the dragon was before. The hero has moved, teleologically, toward individuation. Individuation, according to Jung, is the ultimate goal of analytical psychology. It is the psychic manifestation of unity. Although individuation is the organic goal of the psyche, it is not easy to achieve. Read more

Jungian vs. Clinical

What sets Jungian Psychology apart from clinical psychology is dream analysis. This is a subject that Jung approached seriously. On one occasion an analysand (a patient, or client) came to Jung with a particularly interesting dream. The analysand mentioned that in her dream she went to places in the world that she had never visited. Before she knew it, Jung had pulled a map of the world off of his bookcase and had strewn it out across his desk. He asked the analysand where she had been and then they set about finding the geographic location of her dream on a map of the world. Read more

Life Sometimes Gets Pretty Rough

There are rare moments in life when we are aware of what we’re going through. We choose leaving instead of staying put, change instead of comfort, life instead of death. In those rare moments we are given insight into the pain we carry deep into the night. Edward Edinger called this the soul’s nekyia.

The storm will rage and there is no way around it. Try as we might to sail around the storm we only delay the inevitable. In the nekyia it usually only last through the night. Outside the world of metaphor and archetypes the nekyia can last years, decades … a lifetime at the very worst. Edinger tackled the great work of Moby Dick when speaking of the nekyia. The great white whale can serve as any unknown riddle buried deep in the soul. Whales dive deep, thus Edinger’s and Mellvile’s excellent choice. Read more

Tear Down the Wall

The main theme shared by Analytical Psychology and Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ is a search for meaning … in a meaningless world. I know that some would argue that Jung did find meaning in the world. I would argue that the entire body of Jung’s work is an attempt to find meaning. Whether he actually found it or not is another story.

Why do people listen to Pink Floyd? Why do people study Jung? I think at bottom it is to understand the human condition. I can only speak for myself here but I discovered Jung’s work during a time when life had very little meaning to me. We are a species built for finding meaning. We can’t even look at the night sky without making links between stars. It’s in our nature to want to find meaning. I may be just a brick in the wall … but I don’t want to be. I am always on the lookout for a way to prove to myself and maybe others that I am more than just a brick in the wall. So, I pat myself on the back and I think both of these interests (Jungian Psychology and Pink Floyd) require more brain cells than the average person has to spare. That makes me a little special doesn’t it? Read more

Jungian Analysis and Biology

Is analytical psychology built upon non-rational or even mystical assumptions? It seems inaccessible to many people, including many psychoanalysts, for just this reason. Noll (1994; 1997) attacked analytical psychology on the grounds that it is based in mysticism. Pietikainen (1998a) said that Jungians defend the theory of archetypes. Stevens (1997a) refuted many of Noll’s points. I address both Noll’s and Pietikainen’s critique by arguing that analytical psychology does not depend upon non-rational assumptions.

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Joseph Campbell: Psychological or Metaphysical

This is a very interesting topic and I find myself wondering exactly where Campbell’s ultimate passions were. The first image that is called to mind is Campbell’s rather amazing recounting of a story he read in a Hawaiian newspaper (source: Power of Myth). It was about a guy on a bridge about to commit suicide. I am sure most here know the details of the story.

Campbell called into play Schopenhauer’s metaphysics by recounting the German philosopher’s premise that the “other” was a part of ourselves … And further that all things are connected. Of all the videos I’ve seen, books I’ve read, and lectures I’ve listen to, I would say that this metaphysical assumption of Schopenhauer’s was one that Campbell took as a priori. I believe that this a priori assumption was vindicated time and time again throughout Campbell’s life by evidence collected throughout the world.

I’m not sure that you can really separate out metaphysics from religion and mythology, but if you could I would say that Campbell is a closet philosopher that was just too much of a pragmatist to allow his deep beliefs to stand on their own as Schopenhauer did. Campbell wanted evidence for his metaphysical assumptions and I believe he found it.

Campbell was a close follower of C.G. Jung and agreed in principle that these underlying (a priori) structures were archetypes. I think that Campbell had a much more practical approach to archetypes than Jung did, but he nevertheless embraced the idea. Again, though the idea of archetypes could, in principle, be proven as an empirical fact it nevertheless, stands a metaphysical belief that one either accepts or does not. Many of Campbell’s, and Jung’s, observations follow from this metaphysical assumption. Indeed, if Campbell and Jung had not begun with this position in mind much of their subsequent work would not have followed … They would have reached much different conclusions.

My conclusions is that Campbell was first and foremost an empiricist, but like Einstein, Heisenberg, Jung and many other brilliant intellectuals of the 20th century, they began with an intuition (or metaphysical presupposition) about that way the universe ought to be – the evidence followed from there. Einstein, as a child, imagined riding on a beam of light; Heisenberg came up with the uncertainty principle, not while doing mathematics at the chalkboard, but while sitting overlooking the mountains; Jung had almost no evidence for archetypes or the collective unconscious, yet his entire body of his work post 1918 stand upon this premise. These are people that held very strong convictions about the world and the natural order of things. They did not spend alot of time trying to substantiate their metaphysical assumptions. Nevertheless, they held them strongly and much of their passion was derived from exactly these metaphysical presupposition.